Bloggers for Europe
30Sep/09Off

A guff-free (I hope.) Reason to vote Yes.

Posted at 5:08 pm by Jason O'Mahony

Jobs. Inward investment. Reform of the institutions of the un.....bleuggh! You'll have heard all that stuff before, and from people way smarter than me.

Here's why I'm voting yes.

The EU works. It does more good than harm, and I’ve not come across a proposal from Sinn Fein or Joe Higgins or UKIP or Coir/Youth Defence which makes better sense, and wins as much support, as the EU. 

We’re not voting on the EU, you cry. We’ll still be in the EU regardless of how we vote.

Yeah, that’s true, but here’s my problem:

If we vote No, the rest of Europe will respect our decision. They will accept that we have voted twice against further integration, and that we are sincere in our beliefs that this is as far as we go. In short they will, much to our surprise, actually believe us.

It seems logical to me that those other countries that want to move on will negotiate amongst themselves, and not invite us, because:

A) We have said (Three out of four times.) that we’re not interested.

B) Why would anyone negotiate with an Irish government that can’t get any agreement it makes ratified through a referendum anyway, after failing twice in a row?

They will respect us and leave us be, and I don’t want us to be left be. I want us at the table when Angela Merkel turns and says “What does Ireland think?” and no one on the No side can assure me of that. Neither Joe Higgins, Mary Lou or whoever the mysterious people in Coir/Youth Defence are have the power to make the rest of the EU pay attention to our concerns after a second No vote. Kieran Allen of the Socialist Workers Party (A People Before Profit franchise. Or is it the other way around? I can never remember.) says that the Irish people can take to the streets and demand things from the rest of Europe. Yeah, like we’re going to teach the French how to protest? I can see Sarko snorting already: “Call that a demonstration of public anger? Ha! I’ve seen Carla have bigger tantrums than that!”

There is good stuff in the treaty, but it is technical. The Council will vote in public, for example. Does that excite you? Does that cause your nether regions to stir? Is there anyone closing their curtains, and sweatily slipping “Red Hot Council Decisions Volume 2.” into their DVD player? No there isn’t. But then there are no teenagers slipping a well thumbed copy of “Aircraft Window Sealant regulations” under the sheets either, but next time you get on a plane, and look at the seal around the window, I bet you’ll think: “I hope someone checks this stuff.” Stuff can be boring AND important and this is one of those things.

Many of the people opposed to the treaty are sincere. Joe Higgins is, but Joe is also using the treaty to fight for a vision of society that he has never suceeded in doing in a general election. Trying to turn Ireland into North Korea without the psychotic midget dictator and the daily diet of tree bark and weevils is going to be a hard enough sell. At least turn up on the right battlefield , Joe.

Sinn Fein are still moving away from a 19th century view of the world towards modern times. There are some who say that Sinn Fein opposed this treaty primarily because they knew they would be the only party who would, and so would get additional publicity. Certainly, when you look at the way Sinn Fein ministers in the North talk about the EU (Quite nicely in a More Tea, Vicar? Chocolate Hobnob? kind of way.) and with the same tone that the PSNI talk about their committment to human rights, you can’t help thinking that they’re either two-faced, with a partionist approach to the EU, or the ministers in the North show the way Sinn Fein is heading on Europe. Either way, their alternative has almost no support in the rest of Europe, and believing that Sinn Fein can make the other 26 countries surrender everything is a bit hopeful: When they tried to negotiate with just one country (The Brits), the best they got were all-Ireland telly ads telling us how to not get the runs from food poisoning.

Coir/Youth Defence have it in for, well, 21st Century life on Earth. As one architect friend of mine summed them up: ” According to Coir, voting Yes will mean that the gays can force unborn children to fight in Afghanistan for €1.84 an hour.” How can we listen to people who don’t even identify themselves on their own website? What’s their real agenda, aside from splitting the lease with Youth Defence?

We have problems, big giant Godzilla-without-cute-Godzuki sized problems coming at us. We don’t need to create new problems for the sake of it, and that’s what we will do with a No vote. If you’re pissed off with the government and the political establishment, that’s fine. Kick the crap out of them at election time.

But voting No to get at the government is like being one of those morons who throws rocks at the fire brigade. As Iceland discovered, the EU is the fire brigade, and it sure is handy having a direct line to the station.

Yes is, quite simply, the sensible self-interested way to go.

Share this post:
  • Google Bookmarks
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
Comments (2) Trackbacks (0)
  1. It’s easy to deal with the straw-men, isn’t it ? None of the groups identified represents the majority of “no” voters.

    As for Ireland losing credibility, the other EU leaders are very well aware – as is the entire world – that the dis-connect on the role of the EU is not an uniquely Irish problem. It is not even an *especially* Irish problem, being much worse in almost all other member states.

    The only difference is that our Constitution uniquely makes the People sovereign. Revealingly, the fanatics for a soi-disant democratic EU find this a problem, not just in Ireland but in the Union as a whole. Of course, it was not a problem for them while we could be relied upon to “follow the money trail”.

  2. “None of the groups identified represents the majority of No voters.” That is your opinion, and you are of course entitled to it, as you are entitled to speak for yourself, but not every No voter.

    As for straw men, it wasn’t the Yes side that put up posters claiming €1.84, or pictures of tanks, or foetuses, or 1916 references. It has been a tactic of the No side to treat the Yes side as a bloc (Because it has been consistant.) but then deny ownership of anything the No side says which rebounds. How else do anti-workers rights Tories and pro-rights socialists, and anti-abortion Coir/Youth defence and pro-abortion socialists all claim the treaty is against their diametrically opposed agendas?

    If the No side knew any more about straw men they could audition for The Wizard of Oz.

No trackbacks yet.

Our Twitter Feed

Error: Twitter did not respond. Please wait a few minutes and refresh this page.

Recent Posts

Recent Comments

  • Fergus O'Rourke: Dream on
  • Michael Dorgan: Guarantees arent worth a damn thing, there was no guarantees on my polling card and the |Council...
  • Michael Dorgan: Why is article 52 so ambiguous?? Why do we have to wait for case laws to be brought before the ECJ....
  • Ralf Grahn: Impressive, but now you have a lone warrior in Prague Castle, who wants to rob you of the result.
  • Ralf Grahn: The swing to Yes was massive and the majority massive. Thank you, Bloggers for Europe, for your part in...

Tags

Abortion Anthony Coughlan Balkans Charter Charter of Fundamental Rights Citizens Initiative Coir Competences Declan Ganley ECHR ECJ Economists Economy EU European Council European Parliament European Union Exports Federal Foreign Affairs Government Guarantees Human Rights Ireland Joe Higgins Laval Libertas Lisbon Lisbon Treaty Mary Lou Multilateral National Platform New deal PANA Polar bears President QMV Referendum Seamus Heaney Simplified Revision Procedure Sinn Fein Subsidiarity The Da Vinci Code Treaty Workers' Rights

Blogroll

Meta